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The Middle Lane: Mo Salami on Choosing Your Life's Journey

Jennifer Loehding Season 7 Episode 88

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Have you ever considered what it takes to transition from a successful career in sciences to personal development and online marketing? In an exhilarating conversation with Mo Salami, renowned online marketing expert and international keynote speaker, we unlock the secrets of carving your own path in life. Mo has over 20,000 hours of consulting experience, generating tens of millions of dollars in sales for Tony Robbins events worldwide. He takes us on a journey from discovering the world of personal development through a book by Jack Canfield to working for Tony Robbins and finally using his knowledge to help others scale their online businesses.

Jennifer discusses the importance of living authentically and crafting a lifestyle that aligns with our values and goals. She challenges societal norms, encouraging listeners to forge their own paths and create a life that truly resonates with them. We touch on how life is not black and white and that there's a middle lane that can be filled with whatever we want it to be, and we delve into the importance of building credibility in the coaching space.

Finally, we explore the intertwining roles of personal development and business success. Mo and Jennifer share their insights and personal journeys to success, emphasizing the power of learning, dedication, and stepping out of your comfort zone. Together, we provide a roadmap for achieving personal fulfillment and taking the necessary steps to live a life of abundance and authenticity. So grab your headphones and prepare for a dose of inspiration that will empower you to take control of your life and achieve your goals.

These are our friends. These are your friends. AND they are living the extraordinary.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to another episode of Behind the Dreamers. I'm Jennifer Loading. We are talking to the achievers, the creators, the magic makers and the dreamers. These are our friends, these are your friends and they are living the extraordinary Well. I'm so excited about my guest today because he's coming in from across the world. This is going to be so great. He's an amazing person. He is a former senior mentor for world-class peak performance guru, tony Robbins. While they're part of that California-based team, he generated tens of millions of dollars in sales for Tony Robbins events worldwide. You guys are going to be in for an incredible treat. I've been able to speak to him off camera and he's just an awesome human being. But before I get him on here, we need to do a quick shout-out to our sponsors. So today's episode is brought to you by Walt Mills Photography. If you are a creator needing post-production consultation or promotion, walt is your guy. Whether short films, youtube films, photography work or a new headshot, walt can help you find a solution to match your needs. To learn more about him and his work, you want to go to photosbywaltcom? All right, this is going to be exciting, all right.

Speaker 1:

So my friend, mo Salami is an online. Yes, let's go. He's an online marketing expert, international keynote speaker and certified life coach. He speaks multiple languages, which I just think is amazing. He has done over 20,000 hours of one-on-one consulting, including consulting over 8,000 business owners, doing a million dollars in revenue. This was for business results or for their personal fulfillment. As an online marketing expert, he helps experts grow or scale their online businesses while creating their ideal lifestyle. So you are speaking my language, mo. I love what you do. Welcome to the show. We're so excited to have you here.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much, jennifer, and thanks for this invitation to your amazing platform, and thank you Glad to be here. Glad to be here.

Speaker 1:

This is going to be so much fun, mo, so I want to know, because you're doing so many great things and I'm sure my audience is going to learn so much from you today so tell us a little bit about what it is you are doing right now to make a difference.

Speaker 2:

The best way that I can tell you what I'm doing now is to tell you what brought me to this point. What brought me to this point, jennifer, was a sign. As these things happen, it was literally a sign, and before I tell you about the sign, I'll back up a little bit and let you know that I'm from a family where the holy grail of success is education and, specifically, getting a college degree and, even more specifically, getting a science-based college degree or some sort of math-based or accounting-based college degree. I did all that stuff got the science degrees. In fact, I have three of them.

Speaker 2:

I achieved the first one when I was 20 years old, and so I was a success. I had the college degree, lived in a great neighborhood, great neighbors, great salary, as it were, and what I found out very, very quickly was that the six-figure salary came with, in this case, 16-hour shifts, but it was fine because I was a success. My neighbors were successful, and again, great neighborhood, all that great stuff, and I would always get to the end of the year. You know, when you do that countdown 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, I would step into the new year and the previous year was just a blur of shifts. Every weekday and weekend and holiday tended to be my workday. So I was so unsure because I'm supposed to be successful and I was so unsure if I was actually that actually was that so? Which brings us nicely to the sign. So one day I'm in the bookstore and I see a sign and the sign says how to be successful and I thought, ok, how to be successful. What's that all about? I'm already successful, right? So I went to the sign and it turns out the sign was an ad for a book by Jack Canfield. It's called the Success Principles, and the Success Principles was my very first introduction to personal development and I'm at that point. I was from a world. My entire world was maths, physics, chemistry, biology I think you know maths or math, however you say it right. So that was my world and this was a different world about personal development.

Speaker 2:

So I grabbed the book right there in the bookstore and I sat there and I read, I started reading, I just started reading the book. I sat right there and I got to like halfway through the book and then I got up and actually and then bought the book and then on the left, and essentially, the first chapter of the book was about taking responsibility. You know all the results you have or you get, or everything that happens to you is your responsibility and it's up to you to take responsibility. So ever the good student read the entire book and then I went to the back of the book and I ordered every single book in the back of the Success Principles and I read every single one, and that's how I discovered Tony Robbins and that's how I discovered Tihaveca and, ultimately, that's how I discovered online marketing.

Speaker 2:

So I went to an online marketing conference and I asked myself the question what. I wonder what it would look like if I were the best in the world at online marketing. And I wonder what it would look like if I were the best in the world at personal development. And again, to be clear, this isn't to be better than anyone else, but my point was to be the very, very best that I could be.

Speaker 2:

So I went on a journey, probably over a decade, of paying for, attending and being invited to probably $500,000 worth of training on digital marketing, online marketing, public speaking, different aspects of personal development, and I very quickly came to a fork in a road, and that fork in a road was do I continue on this path of online marketing? You know, at the time I had taught myself how to code and I was building websites and getting results for clients in that space of online marketing, digital marketing, all things there or do I go work for Tony Robbins? And, of course, tony has an amazing mission and serving lots of people and I had learned sales over a long period of time. I initially had learned sales from a gentleman called Chet Holmes and also from Jay Abraham. You know sales and marketing and I took the whichever direction, for meant going to work for team Tony Robbins and I got the opportunity to do, you know, lots of high ticket sales and serve a lot of people to improve themselves. And again, as you mentioned in the intro, I did tens of millions of dollars of sales over there and I guess, more importantly, I did a lot of value and helped a lot of people in the direction that they needed to be served, you know, by Tony.

Speaker 2:

And you know, at some point I had an epiphany looking back at my previous in inverted commas success, and the epiphany was this Sometimes we think we're successful when what it really is is successful. And then I asked myself well, with all the I mean at this point, I've probably read at this point, probably a thousand business, personal development, that sort of area, you know books, and and that's not even before we get to all the trainings right. And I thought, with all of this that I've learned and acquired, you know, I wonder if I could help more people go from successful, or go from successful to successful, using everything I've learned from online business over the last decade and some, and from working for Tony Robbins for for eight years. So that's what brought me here and and that's that's. That's the story.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I was going to say some I like your, like stressful, I like that. Never heard anybody say that before that way. So I like that term that you coined there and you know, and I think it's so interesting that you were talking about you know growing up and getting you know all these degrees it being about you know math and science, because I think that that is kind of like a lot of the way we hear things like right, it's, it's this idea that we have to go get these degrees and then we go make these money, sort of like this path we have to take.

Speaker 1:

And then I've talked about this many times in other episodes like we go our whole lives and I'm not saying me, because I'm not doing that, but a lot of people do they go their whole lives, they get this degree, they're making great money and they think they're successful, and then they wake up one day and they realize they're not really all that successful because they're not happy, right, like they're just living sort of this shell existence, and so I think it's awesome that you recognize that and I can. I know you're incredibly smart just by that. When you told me three degrees, I'm like you are. That is crazy. But just to have that epiphany moment where you go, you know I'm making good money and this is not really what it's all about in life. Right Like this isn't everything.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I'm probably not that smart, but I do work very, very, very hard. You know, perhaps, perhaps that's what got me there. Jennifer, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I always like to say that you can curate the life that you want to create. You know, a lot of times we most people have that almost is it a diagnosis of how to live your life. You know, go down this route, go down this route, and oftentimes the life that other people plan for you tends to be that life of limitations. You know that this is your level, this is your lane. You know we have all these phrases about them, right? You know, stay in your lane. This is your level. All that great stuff. And ultimately, you know you definitely have the option to curate the life and create the life that you want to create. It's literally up to you and that's literally what I teach in terms of. You know, design the, literally the life and the lifestyle that you want exactly how you want it. And that means different things to different people. And you know the capacity of a human being is unlimited. So the key is, you know, whatever's happened in the previous chapters of your life, you know, moving forward, you can. You can get to.

Speaker 2:

We get told, you know, use the, the black pen or the blue pen to write your life, as in, metaphorically, you know, as an adult, you use the black pen or you use the blue pen to design your life, meaning the job that you're supposed to have or the, the area that you're supposed to living, or even even all these different, like limitations and when. I believe that, given the choice of which pen to use for the upcoming chapters of your life, you may not decide to use the black pen or the blue pen. You might decide to use the red pen or the green pen or, shock horror, write the story of your life of a sharpie or a glitter pen. Or you might decide you know, I won't even, I'm not even going to use a pen to design the next chapters of my life, and you use a pencil or even a paintbrush, like, literally, the life and the lifestyle that you want to design is entirely up to you, that's beautiful.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say a yellow one, not that it might not show up on the paper, but I like yellow. So, before you, just be right there, jennifer that's it right there.

Speaker 2:

Do you see that? Imagine, imagine a life that you live with your yellow pen versus having to use the blue pen, for example. Right, you know, and tell me. Tell me a little bit more about the pen that you choose. Like what type of pen would it be? Mark a pen, a regular pen for yourself, that yellow pen?

Speaker 1:

I was thinking actually a gel pen like those gel the gel because I like the way they glide, because they're kind of a smooth but, I think it was fun because I love that, and you're right, it's like we're told to pick it's this way or this way, and I think you know I was having this conversation with somebody recently.

Speaker 1:

Life is not black and white right, like there's gray, there's gray, and it can be whatever you want it to be, but we always think it has to be this way or this way. But there's a middle lane right and that's what I love about what you're doing, because we get to help people find what's that middle lane you want to create.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, absolutely. And again, you just said it right there. Like a lot of times we're told it's this way or that way. You know the blue pen, the black pen, the left or the right, it's one of those ways and that's it, and you know. Imagine that for yourself, that life with a yellow pen and the type of pen that you wanted as well. It's just more interesting writing with the gel pen, if that's the one that you picked for sure.

Speaker 1:

I agree, I agree. I love it. One other thing that I really like about what you've done is that you've spent the time, because I think in this space, in this coaching space, there are a lot of coaches out there. I don't ever like to talk bad about anybody, because I think we're all on our own journey, but I think that building that credibility in this space is so important. I love that you've spent the time doing the work. That's what I always say, because I shared with you. We got to talk off camera and off this recording.

Speaker 1:

When I went into study, I started doing this life coaching. I had 20-something years in business. I was coaching people all throughout that, with no background. But you earn a lot. When you work with women for 20-something years, you start doing a lot of therapy because that's what you have to do. But when I went in to start learning some of the coaching stuff that I was learning, I mean I had incredible mentors all those times, so I was getting incredible training. It was there at ease for us.

Speaker 1:

But when I really started to go in and try to learn why I was having so much struggle in my business and then really started making the connections, how the life and the business are really intertwined, because how you show up in one area is really how you show up in all the areas of your lives and how these things manifest very differently.

Speaker 1:

That's when I started getting into okay, now we need to start understanding this life side of things, like what's going on here, what are these limitations, these paradigms that are blocking us and they're manifesting, and mine was always really struggling around money, like how was that showing up very differently in my personal life versus my business life? And so I think what I'm getting at when I say this is that putting in the work is important, right, like putting in and understanding what you're passionate about and your craft. And so that's what I admire about you is that you not only said, hey, I have this sign, you got this one Jack Canfield book, and then you go and you order all these books and then you go through all this Tony Robbins stuff, and so I want to applaud you for that, because I do think that sets you apart from a lot of the people out there that are doing a lot of what we do.

Speaker 2:

I think, jennifer, you know I like so much what you said there about all the women you'd helped and coached, all the people you'd helped and coached over the years, and then all the different things that you've realized, you know, from coaching and all the differences you've helped you, you were able to make, because that's huge, that is, you know, so humongous, and that speaks to the fact that that's who you are anyway, in your core. You know you're driven towards helping others to really succeed and I think you know it probably would have been easier not seeing that sign right because, in terms of literally, I literally read every single book on the back and and then I literally traveled. You name a country or continent. I've probably been there seeking out who's the best, like who's the best that you know, public speaking, training, who's the best at this area of digital marketing, etc. And what it boils down to is that if I can be the best me, it helps me be, it helps you be the best you, you being like a plural term for whoever I'm training or mentoring, because the outcome is that just to help people take that step.

Speaker 2:

You know, for one person it could be just a solitary step, but for the next person, it could be, you know, walking. For someone else, it could be, you know, running or leaping. So, and again, if I can do my best, you know, to, you know, learn from and cultivate knowledge from the best, the best place is possible, and then also encourage with things like implementation you mentioned like money before, so things like mindset as well, you know then then hopefully, you know, fingers crossed I can then help you. You know be the best. You said so that was the plan. So, again, when I mentioned before oh well, this look like if I were the best in the world at online marketing or the best in the world with personal development the bigger ask was how can I get to a place where I'm super good at this for the betterment of whoever is in front of me moving forward? So I definitely agree with that, jennifer, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's good, that's good. You're looking at the larger picture and that's important, right? Especially, again, I think it's important in this space. You know, in this, this personal development space, you know there's a lot of coaches around that I feel like sometimes just sort of wake up and decide to be a coach and then they just go grab a quick certification. You know and not that I'm not demeaning those, because I think that they're important we need those.

Speaker 1:

But I really think I'm such a big advocate for personal testimony, I think, when we can speak through what we've gone through or our own realization, and then bring that to somebody because people don't always care, like where you are now, they want to know how you got there, like what, what led you to this, to bring you to where you are today. Because when they look at you, mo, or even if they look at me and you're incredible, they look at us and go you've been like this forever. No, no, that's not the way it is right. We have to work to get to these places.

Speaker 1:

And you had the successful career, you were doing the right things, and you woke up one day and said, no, this is not it, you know. And so people looking on the outside, go, well, they got it all, like they got it right, like it's there. But then we realized we go no, that's not what it's all about, which leads me to our whole conversation about the 2%. I haven't forgotten that conversation. It's in my head every day. Those 2% right, because that's what we're trying to teach people to live is to be that 2% that we talked about, which you need to talk about that so they know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2:

Right, so, um, um. So first of all, jennifer, I do think you're pretty incredible and I've listened to a few of your episodes. I've seen, like, what you're doing and, and it's always, it's such a great thing, you know, even even if you have, I think, if, even if you have someone that says one day, oh, by the way, I'm going to become a coach tomorrow, I think that's a great thing because, you know, the first, I guess, step is, um, is being like someone who, who learns from you. They that I think they don't necessarily want you to be the best in the world as such, but what they do want is that you're, you genuinely care for their progress and that you're just in front of where they're at now. And then I think it's definitely a great thing, as that coach, as it were, to continue developing, to continue improving, continuing going to the next level, um, to, because, again, you know we can, we can serve I, we can serve people best. I'll repeat what I, what I said before, like if I can be the best me, I'm in a better position to help you become you in a plural sense become, become the best you and um, so the 2%. So this is a two part story here.

Speaker 2:

So there was a study a few years ago and, you know, not long after I discovered Jack Canfield, I discovered a nightingale and he did a study of 25 year olds and just for argument's sake I used the number 100. So let's say 125 year olds, and they were studied for 40 years until they were 65. And by age 25, you know, they were full of, you know, desire and ambition and I want to achieve this and live here and make this much money and all the things that we believe in general, equal success in life. Now, by the time they were 65, what was found from the study was that 4% of them had achieved the goals they'd set at age 25. So, from 25 to 65, over that 40 year span, you know 4% had gotten to where they had wanted at age 25. And then, furthermore, 80 year olds you know different study 80 year olds, in general, you know 98% of people or, to flip it, you know 2% of people have lived the life that they wanted to.

Speaker 2:

You know, and a lot of times it's what's the reason.

Speaker 2:

You know that happens.

Speaker 2:

There are lots and lots and lots of different reasons and a lot of times it's just that not being willing to step into uncomfort, you know, and just wanting to stay in what's been prescribed for us, you know, wanting to use that blue pen instead of the yellow pen, right, and it's like the uncomfort part is uncomfortable just for a little while.

Speaker 2:

So, you know, it's just that like really finding the resources. You know, coaches and mentors and trainings and books, perhaps, you know, and the knowledge part is great, of course, but then the implementation part is even better as well. So those things sort of added together, you know, obviously in a bit of a better structure, get people to leave that 98% who are unfulfilled, ultimately, and then to join that, you know, 2% who are leading the life they want, or you know that 4% by age 65. So it's really, really interesting because you know most people they tolerate living a life they love, but they won't put themselves out there to create a life that they love. So that's what it boils down to a lot of times, I think.

Speaker 1:

Gave me chills, mo. That's what I'm like. You were talking about that. Thank you for sharing that, because when we talked, I have not forgotten that conversation. Every day I'm like 2%, 2%. That's what we're working on the 2%. You don't want to be in the 98%, because you don't want to be living that life of mediocrity. You've got to step out. Take the yellow pen right. I love it.

Speaker 2:

It's funny because it's a future-paced challenge, right? Because in real time, imagine that. So in real time, you think you're successful, or one thinks they're successful, and then we literally have all these things we want and we open the drawer and we put them in the drawer and we shut the drawer and we call it a bucket list, right, and we go, oh, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that and I'm going to do this, and then, but I'll do it next year, all the year after all in. And then 10 years go by, 20 years go by, and it continues. And then some people go to the drawer that's below the first drawer and they've said to themselves this list is not even going to happen. So they call it an effort list. There's a whole nother list, right. But they go, yeah, ha ha ha.

Speaker 2:

And it's an interesting one because at some point the epiphany arrives that, oh, you mean, I could have done all those things, you know. And so it's just about just in real time saying, okay, here's how I want the life, here's the life that I want for myself and the people that I love and the people who love me as well. Here's the life and the lifestyle that I want for me and them, and then let's create that exactly how I want, and people have done that and there are tools out there to help us get it done, so let's step into that. But it always a lot of it stems from being willing to be uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

You know, and I would say that for sure- yeah, well, and I think, too, you know one of the things I've had to do, because you're right, I think we do we put it out and we say we'll go when this happens, when this happens, when this happens, then that's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

And you know, I think, and I always go back to you know what I learned when I went through the Life Mastery Institute.

Speaker 1:

We talked about it and we talk about, you know, our four domains, the areas of our lives that we're trying to find happiness in, and you know I've sort of adopted this idea that you know my job every day for myself, and this is what I try to exhibit to the people that are listening to what I talk about and what I do is that you know what is one thing I can do every day in my life, that one thing that I can do to create what I'm trying to create, that life that I'm trying to create. And the other thing is to find gratitude in my day, find what it is in my day that is bringing me that joy, because ultimately it is that it's not the end results, right, it's not the end, it is, it's the finding the joy in what we're doing every day that, I think, ultimately fulfills us in the end. Right, and when you were talking about this bucket list, I'm immediately in my mind going the shoulda coulda woulda donea. You know what I mean? Like, that's what's going through my mind, and who wants to be that way at the end, we don't want to be the shoulda coulda woulda, right, we want to be.

Speaker 1:

We did it, we did it. That's what we want.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. I mean, the great thing about results is that it means that you had to go. So you know you literally said it just there, jennifer Like we have all these things, we have the coulda, shoulda, woulda, the bucket list, the other list, all that great stuff. And then the great news is we have tomorrow to get it done. Right, you know, let's get it done tomorrow. I'll do that next year, next time, next season, next quarter. And you know it's some the get in.

Speaker 2:

A result says you had to go. So you don't, like, look back in the future. Like in the future, you don't look back and go oh, I wonder what would have happened If you went for it. You know that, oh, you either achieved it, surpassed it, or almost got to it, or, even more beautiful is that you got halfway there and you realized that, oh, there's this other direction that I need to be taken. And then the first directions that I did helped me do that other direction, helped me pivot or go in that other direction. So then, all of a sudden, you lose that attachment to the result. For sure, do the best you can, consistently, but you lose that attachment to the result. But then you went for it, you took the actions for sure. So it's certainly about that, I would say, just like really really going for it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is good, this is good. Mo, I wanted to ask you a question, so maybe for because obviously a lot of people I mean we get other people that are listening to this, we get a lot of entrepreneurs and professionals that are listening to this and they're like they're in that space where they're trying to achieve and we want them to push them into that, that work towards that 2%. Let's get them achieving and live in the life that they want to live, right, like that's what I would say. That's why my business it's life by design is we're trying to create the life that we love, right and encompass all the things that we want. So you've said so many good things here, but maybe what's one thing they could do like right now? Maybe a step or something they could take, advice or something you'd win them to push them maybe into that space. I know it's all encompassing, but we need something.

Speaker 2:

What's one thing to push them into the space of the life that they want to lead?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what's something they could do To?

Speaker 2:

make it, to decide it and design it. So, first, make the decision that you know this is the life that. Do you like the way I incorporated your podcast name in that, by the way? You know, the first of all, decide, like, make that decision that you know there's a life I want to lead. If it's not the one that you're the pathway you're on at the minute, and decide that, okay, I'm gonna go for it. And then the second part is to design it and get some real clarity around.

Speaker 2:

You know all the different areas that you know, if almost do like a cloud, like a wish, like a, I guess, almost like a word cloud of you know, this is what I want, this is where I see this area of my life. This is what I want in terms of my love, my loved ones, I should say, and perhaps you know how I want the family life to be. This is where I want to live. If I want a second home, this is where it would be. If I don't want a second home, that's great too. If I want to move, this will do this. There's a number of hours, that's a huge one. You know if I'm, if, how many hours I'd like to work ideally. You know what value I'd like to bring into this world, which then, you know, leads to. You know the amount you're able to earn, perhaps, you know, or revenues and so forth. So design it with specificity, you know. And it doesn't.

Speaker 2:

Usually, if we ask ourselves what is the answer to a question, A lot of times we say we don't know. But then the next question becomes I know that you don't know, but if you knew, what would be the answer to the question? Because typically we know the answer, but it's usually limiting beliefs, or I can't, or that sounds great, but there's this whole list of reasons why I can't do it. So, you know, grab that yellow pen, for example, and you know the pen that you choose, and then just describe and design exactly what you want, and then the next step is just to take a step, just take one step in the direction of it.

Speaker 2:

You know, it doesn't have to be everything, but literally like, what is one action you can take, you know, towards that. And then I would say that One of my mentors, tony Robbins, you know my favorite quote from him is never leave the site of making a decision without taking action. So this speaks to that like to you know, making a decision for exactly what you want, minus any limitations. If there's a certain, if it's car you want, or a vacation that you want, or free time you want, or if you have a hobby or a passion you know that you really want, like, really get specific and then take one step in the direction of getting that done. I would say that's the first step.

Speaker 1:

It's good. It's good, all right. I want to ask you one more question, mo, and this is kind of a fun question. I ask this all my. I don't ask this all the time, but sometimes I like to ask this question because I think you're, I just think you're a neat, amazing person and I love what you're doing and I kind of like, just you know your journey, your switch, because I think, coming from you know a background of having you know math and science be kind of the core, because I studied accounting, so I get, I can kind of relate to this. I never like to say I understand, you know how somebody feels, but I can, I can resonate with what you're saying. And then, moving into this entrepreneurial space and also this personal development space, which is so much about our thoughts and the way we perceive things, I would like to know, if you had to sum your journey up in like a couple words, what would be your takeaway on this?

Speaker 2:

To sum my journey, I would say I would well. You said a couple of words, so literally, I would say, in progress. You know there's still, you know, more to do. What I would say as well to people listening to this is that is this like? To you, your ordinary, and then to us, your extraordinary?

Speaker 2:

A lot of times it's a normal, I guess, human trait to have that, you know, imposter syndrome, feeling or or I'm not enough, and all that great stuff. And if you're doing well in one area of your life, already you have these amazing competencies and skill sets already. You know and this could be if you're in a corporate role, if you have your own regular business or your online business, or even or if you're someone who's a stay at home parent, for example, to do those things requires some really great skill sets and amazing competencies already. Right. But oftentimes we forget all those great things we've done and we go oh, I'm just filling the blank, I'm just a, I'm just a. So again I repeat to you your ordinary, to us your extraordinary. And if there's that next step, you know you've pulled out the, you've discarded the black or the blue pen and you've pulled out the yellow pen in this instance and you've decided here's the life and the lifestyle that I'd like to design.

Speaker 2:

You aren't starting from the beginning, because it's just a case of taking your amazing competencies and skill sets from your current success wall you know your ladders against your current wall of success and then if you're moving it to the other wall, it's just you'll be using those same competencies, but just using it towards a different objective, you know. And then we add you know, some mindset pieces and strategy pieces and voila. So you know. So again.

Speaker 2:

So a lot of times we forget all the amazing things we've done and we just, we just think we're starting from the beginning, but oftentimes we're not. You know if you, if you're an amazing parent, if you're an amazing, you know at work, for example, if you're amazing in another area of your life there are some amazing competencies there, some of them are even unique to you as well that you shift to this other new thing and then all of a sudden, you become amazing over there because of the new strategy is in the mindset pieces, but then you bring your own uniqueness to that other area as well. So I just wanted to to mention that as well. You know it's awesome.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. You're incredible. So what I do want to ask you is if our audience wants to get in touch with you. They want to learn more about you, your work, what you're doing, follow you. Where would you like us to send them?

Speaker 2:

So what I would say is this you know, what I teach is that you can create the life and the lifestyle that you want to create.

Speaker 2:

You literally can, and the way we teach that. There are lots of ways to get there, of course, and the way that I teach that is two ways via the impact that you can have and fulfillment. So the way we teach impact is via having your online business. So perhaps you love what you're doing currently and then having a side hustle online business that brings in six figures is the way that you want to go. Or perhaps you want to go all in with an. You know you have your own mission to serve your own tribe. You want to go all in with your, with your own online business, and head for that. You know mid six. I always I never really like to mention like numbers like that, but maybe you want to go, feel like your mid six figures. We have your own like target and you want to get all in with that. So we teach that with the outcome of you having the impact you want.

Speaker 2:

You know a lot of the limitations for people tends to be, you know, financial. So the the, the fact that you're bringing put in a lot of value out there into the world for your tribe hopefully gives you some more financial options. So we teach that you know you know online business. The other way is that at the end of the success, remember which we're being successful versus you know, successful at the end of the success. What people tend to find is that at the end of the impact, what people sometimes find is that they're not, they're not fulfilled.

Speaker 2:

So I also offer you know personal development coaching and high performance coaching as well. So, to that end, if you go to most salamicom forward slash free call, I do offer a free strategy call. On the strategy call, you'll get a ton of you know, really great value for sure, and then by the end of the call, we can determine the next direction for you and or if we're great fit to work together. So most salamicom forward slash free call and if you're wanting to you know, know more about me in general, just go to most salamicom forward slash blog. So those are, those are the ways most salamicom forward slash free call.

Speaker 1:

We got it, mo, very good. Well, you've been incredible. Thank you so much for sharing with our audience. I love what you're doing. Keep inspiring, keep doing your thing. You're doing great stuff, and so I just want to say thank you for your contribution and making the world a better place.

Speaker 2:

You're welcome. Thank you for this invitation and a synonym to be a guest on your podcast.

Speaker 1:

Thank you. And, of course, we do want to say to our audience if you enjoy the show, check us out over on Apple, give us a rating over there, hit that subscribe button on YouTube so we can keep sharing all these incredible stories. And, as I always say, in order to live the extraordinary, you must start, and every start begins with a decision. You guys, take care, be safe, be kind to one another. We will see you next time.

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